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Looking for a Haas VF4 for Sale? Want to Learn More about your Options on Used Haas VF4 machines? You’ve Come to the Right Place! Are you looking for a used Haas VF4 for sale at a fair price? No matter what type of used Haas you are looking for, you will find the Haas VF 4 price listed right next to each available machine to make the buying process easy.

Current Used Haas VF4 Inventory

All the Haas VF4 machines for sale at CNCMachines.net have been thoroughly checked and can offer you the benefits of Haas without the expense of buying new.  We both buy and sell used Haas VF4 CNC’s. We genuinely care about helping American manufactures like you succeed. By offering quality used CNC’s for sale, we provide access to equipment and technology to keep you competitive and producing parts at high levels of efficiency. We’re here if you want to sell a used CNC and replace it with a used Haas VF4 or if you want to, augment your capabilities to meet demand. When you are looking for a Haas VF4 for sale, we can help! We want to partner with you, and help you find a Haas VF 4 price that fits your budget as well as a machine that fits your needs. Contact us and we’ll get started to find the best solutions for your shop.

The Haas VF4 (sometimes called a VF-4) is a popular medium size CNC, with a travel 50” x 20” x 25”. In this article you will learn about the Haas CNC controls including DWO/TCP, the general specifications on the VF4, rotary tables and a fixturing accessories that come with some used Haas VF4 CNC’s as well as how to buy and how to inspect a used Haas VF4 CNC machine for sale.

Used Haas CNC VF4 Controls

The Haas control makes their VMCs (Vertical Machining Centers) easy to operate. Even models going to back to the year 2000 had Haas-only features like “Word Processor Editing” to help operators easily make changes. They carried features like one-touch, multi-function haas vf4 for salejog-handle and quick code programing even these early machines.  Haas provides a robust dependable control that is integrated with the Haas CNC machine. They do not rely on third-party NC suppliers. Used Haas VF4 machines have dedicated keypads with a full array of keys including a complete alphanumeric keypad with all common functions clearly labeled for operator use. Operators don’t need to remember any encrypted codes.  Keep in mind, if you are buying an older Haas, you probably can update the control with a third-party vendor.

The Haas CNC VF4 controls come with one-button features to make common multi-step functions fast. For example, a tool offset can be reduced to the push of one button. Other common functions of the one-button function include setting work offsets, homing the machine and selection the next tool during setup. The jog-handle on most CNC machines is used to only move the axis around. But on the Haas VF4, the jog-handle can be used in other modes to cursor through the program for overriding spindle speeds, faster editing, or to scan through offsets, parameters, etc. All of this is easy to see on the high-density, high-contrast LCD screen that is common to many years of VF4 production. This 15” TFT LCD display screen will not wash out in bright light because the panel is mounted behind anti-glare tempered glass for production and easy viewing. The USB port makes it easy to use your own USB flash memory devices or external hard drives if you are not connecting via ethernet or Wi-Fi.

As computer technology advances, Haas makes their controls even faster and smarter. Their goal is to keep the spindle turning which keeps the cash flowing into your pocket.

Newer models have:

  • HaasConnect Remote Monitoring
  • Ethernet connectivity
  • DWO/TCPC (see below)
  • User-Definable Macros
  • WiFi Connectivity
  • Expandable Memory

DWO/TCP on VF4 Haas Used CNC’s

When looking for a used Haas VF4 CNC for sale, consider asking if the DWO/TCP option is included. This stands for “Dynamic Work Offsets and Tool Center Point Control.” It’s a software feature designed by Haas to increase productivity and reduce setup times. It makes setting up easy by allowing an operator to place the part and fixture anywhere on the machine’s table or platter. The machine will find it no matter the location that was programmed by the CAM system. DWO and TCPC determine the difference between the centers of rotation which are programmed in the CAM system and the centers of rotation inside the machine and applies the appropriate offsets. This saves money by eliminating costly work holding, like self-centering fixtures and the regeneration of programs by CAM systems.

Haas VF4 Overview and Specifications

The standard Haas VF4 is a 40-taper vertical machining center with a 50 x 20 x 25 travel. It provides both power and versatility. The base model comes with a 30 hp vector drive and spindle speed of 8100 rpm (SS models add spindle speed.) The in-line direct-drive motor has proven reliability. The standard Haas VF4 has a 20-station carousel tool change, 1000 inch per minute rapids and 1 MB program memory. The 2015 model (and others) come with a 15” LCD monitor, USB port, memory lock key switch, rigid tapping and a 55-gallon flood coolant system. This CNC is a workhorse with its high-power direct-drive spindle.

TRAVELS

S.A.E.

Metric

X-Axis

50″

1270 mm

Y-Axis

20″

508 mm

Z-Axis

25″

635 mm

Spindle Nose to Table (~ min)

4″

102 mm

Spindle Nose to Table (~ max)

29″

737 mm

TABLE

S.A.E.

Metric

Length

52″

1321 mm

Width

18″

457 mm

T-Slot Width

5/8″

16 mm

T-Slot Center Distance

3.15″

80.0 mm

Number of Std T-Slots

5

5

Max Weight on Table (evenly distributed)

3500 lb

1588 kg

SPINDLE

S.A.E.

Metric

Max Rating

30 hp

22.4 kW

Max Speed

8100 rpm

8100 rpm

Max Torque

90 ft-lb @2000 rpm

122 Nm @ 2000 rpm

Drive System

Inline Direct-Drive

Inline Direct-Drive

Max Torque w/opt Gearbox

250 ft-lb @ 450 rpm

339 Nm @ 450 rpm

Taper

CT or BT 40

CT or BT 40

Bearing Lubrication

Air/Oil injection

Air/Oil injection

Cooling

Liquid Cooled

Liquid Cooled

FEEDRATES

S.A.E.

Metric

Rapids on X

1000 in/min

25.4 m/min

Rapids on Y

1000 in/min

25.4 m/min

Rapids on Z

1000 in/min

25.4 m/min

Max Cutting

650 in/min

16.5 m/min

AXIS MOTORS

S.A.E.

Metric

Max Thrust X

2550 lb

11343 N

Max Thrust Y

2550 lb

11343 N

Max Thrust Z

4200 lb

18683 N

TOOL CHANGER

S.A.E.

Metric

Type

Carousel (SMTC Optional)

Carousel (SMTC Optional)

Capacity

20

20

Max Tool Diameter (full)

3.5 “

89 mm

Max Tool Weight

12 lb

5.4 kg

Tool-to-Tool (avg)

4.2 sec

4.2 sec

Chip-to-Chip (avg)

4.5 sec

4.5 sec

GENERAL

S.A.E.

Metric

Air Required

4 scfm, 100 psi

113 L/min, 6.9 bar

Coolant Capacity

55 gal

208 L

Machine Weight

13300 lb

6033 kg

If these specifications are not exactly what you are looking for, consider buying a different Haas VF vertical machining center. You also may want to consider a Haas VF4SS (super speed) for 12,000 rpm or a Haas VF with more travel.

Haas Rotary Table & Fixturing Accessories Available on Some Used Haas VF4 CNCS

You may find a Haas VF4 for sale with a rotary table. You’ll see these listed along with the VF4 with model numbers like HRT160, HRT160SS, HRT210, HRC210, HRT210-2, etc. These add 4th axis capability for round parts to odd-shaped castings. They are T-Slotted rotary tables that allow for very flexible fixturing. All Haas mills with this added to the Haas control gain multi-axis capability. Haas also has a wide range of work holding solutions from tailstocks to quick-change fixture plates to manual scroll chucks. You will want to inquire about any additional fixturing tooling that may be included with your used VF4 Haas CNC. New, the small rotary tables cost between $9,000 and $10,500 and medium tables (the HRT210 and HRT310 series) run between $10,500 to $16,000. Since you can boost your production with high-precision rotary products, they may be well-worth the extra expense.

How To Buy A Used Haas VF4 CNC

Buying a used CNC vertical machining center like the VF4 is similar to buying a used car. You want the best machine and a Haas VF 4 price that is fair. When you find a used Haas VF4 for sale, you know it’s value is based on the quality of the machine and capabilities and there’s no big mark-up from the manufacturer like there is for new machines. After the initial depreciation, Haas used CNC machines hold their value much better than cars. You’ll also find pricing varies depending on the condition, number of spindle hours, the age of the SL-30 CNC and the options that are included.

The base model new VF4 machines from Haas have consistently sold for between $65,000 – $70,000 for the last 10 years. If the used Haas VF4 for sale that you are considering is priced higher, you’re likely to find extras like through spindle coolants, chip augers, programmable coolant, spare M codes, coolant filters, 4th axis drive, 4th axis rotary tables, side ATC and more. You’ll also find pricing varies depending on the condition, number of spindle hours and age of the VF4 CNC.

The VF4 configurations have changed relatively little making it a great option to buy used. Because of its popularity, finding machinists for the VF4 is easier than for other CNC’s.  When you are looking at a used VF4 Haas machine for sale, you’ll want to get photos and carefully inspect for signs of wear and tear, get the maintenance records as well as the hours of operation. Every Haas VF 4 price should be justified by age, wear, capabilities and accessories. Here are some tips for finding the best used Haas CNC. Here are some things to consider when look for used Haas VF4 CNC’s for sale.

Planning the Purchase of a Used Haas CNC VF4

  • Be informed. When you buy a used machine, you’re going to need to do more research than when buying a new Haas CNC. It might help to make a list of your requirements. This can help you determine what age Haas CNC VF4 works best for your shop. You may want to buy a similar year to a VF4 that you already have, or you may want to look for one that is newer, so you can begin to connect everything via ethernet or Wi-Fi to take advantage of software innovations.
  • Ask for good photos. Zoom up in the photos and look for signs of damage and worn components.
  • Speak with a local Haas service provider who can provide service for the machine. Get his/her opinion on any specific machine type that you are considering purchasing.
  • Search similar years for the VF4 to see how pricing compares.
  • Get the hours of operation.
  • Ask for the maintenance records of the specific Haas VF4 that you are considering. Repair work isn’t a bad thing, in many cases it will help you know what been replaced, what hasn’t and if it was done right. Ask for as much documentation as the seller can provide. This will help you in case you have problems at later date and provide you with details for buying parts. One advantage of buying a used Haas VF4 is that since these machining centers are relative common, finding parts shouldn’t be too difficult.
  • Find out if any tooling or other accessories are being offered that are included in the Haas VF 4 price.

How to Inspect a Used Haas VF4 For Sale On-Site

  • Inspect for damage and worn components. Carefully look all over the machine. There are enough used Haas VF4’s available that you shouldn’t have to buy a machine with obvious damage or signs of wear.
  • Ask to operate the machine to see it actually run.
  • Listen to the sounds of the axis moving at different speeds
  • Run the spindle at the max RPM.
  • Look at the guards and sensors on the machine. If sensors, switches, wires and hoses all match and look like they match well, that’s an indication of a well-maintained machine.
  • Make parts on the machine if possible.
  • Checks spindle run-out with a test indicator
  • Check repeatability of the x, y, z at multiple feeds
  • Check backlash of screws
  • Check the tool-changer. See how well it changes tools at different areas of the tool changer
  • Check the electrical cabinet for anything that looks like “not factory” and ask about it.
  • Ask the owner why he’s selling the machine.
  • Find out what process controller is on the machine. For older machines, the processor may have been upgraded.
  • Review chip & coolant management options.
  • Find out the electrical requirements for install.
  • Discuss payment options, you may get a better deal with a cash down-payment.
  • Buy from someone who has a good reputation.

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